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Sapa · Rep: **76.3** votes: 8

Thanks!

Will try it!

Tried myself but after deleting the four VL:s the game crashed.. Embarassed

schrecken · Rep: **195** votes: 15

Did you change the control 9 to a 5?

Have a look at WaR or tLD workbook for an explanation of BTD's

Sapa · Rep: **76.3** votes: 8

got it!

Played a 15 minutes singlebattle with the changed VL:s and i am sad to say that it doesent seem to have any impact at all!
Moved all my Germans to the north, just leaving a recon squad in the middle of the map, played with the enemy shown to see what happens..

2 minutes: 1 Brengroup and 1 Firefly started to move North
5 minutes: still moving North, the rest of the Britts are just waiting
7 minutes: my German recon took out the Brengroup and the Firefly fleed to the south!
10 minutes: Two more UK teams moved to the north to first bridge and then run home (without getting any fire)
15 minutes: No more action, just teedrinking i suppose..

I am sorry to say that this is a disaster for the GC play, no use in playing as Germans if the XXX Corps doesent attack! Crying or Very sad

karlmortar · Rep: **16.7** votes: 2

Took me 4 battles until the XXX coprs in Valkensward even fired a shot at me, and they still only had reached the second small bridge! Mad

One thing that annoys me is that the AI during strat moves is a coward! Mad

2nd Para Btn has an open road to Arnhem road brige, yet he doesn't make a dash for it!
I even tried to remove ALL german BGs that were close to Arnhem to try to give 2nd Para some sense of security, but 2nd Para still have a cup of tee in east Oosterbeek.
Why? Crying or Very sad

And once XXX reaches Eindhoven they decide that the city is a great place and fudge the entire operation. Checking 3 days later (21 sep) they were still in Eindhoven! Shocked

Make the AI more agressive and smarter, please! Crying or Very sad

The fun about OMG is to try to stop XXX corps to reach Arnhem, not to wait for it to come out of Eindhoven. Confused

Otherwise good game. Very Happy

Sapa · Rep: **76.3** votes: 8

Yes i love it to! Very Happy

Thats why im so frustrated about this entry battle!!! changing the VL doesent seems to help... now i will look in the Base files (it should be nice to have the workbook Wink

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(My Ostgotisk brain is going overheated right now!)

squadleader_id · Rep: **53.2** votes: 7

For playing vs the AI...play as the attacker (Allies), people! Smile

If you love playing as Germans then play PJ's Stalingrad Winter Campaigns mods (SDK, SOC, SDKDK)...or the first half of WAR.

If you must play as Germans, then maybe wait a bit for a vetmod (Salhexe is probably already busy modding one)...then you'll at least have an aggressive attacking tactical AI (not sure about the Stratmap AI...looks like a patch is needed for this).
In the meantime...try playing as Allies...the defending AI still can't setup properly, sometimes launches stupid charges and leaves perfectly good cover for no reason...but the defending AI will give you a good challenge...and sometimes even whoop ya! Smile

squadleader_id · Rep: **53.2** votes: 7

...and I forgot to mention the overpowered German MGs...makes attacking that much harder...one mistake and bodies will pile up! Wink

Sapa · Rep: **76.3** votes: 8

Thanks,but i will not wait for any Vetmod..i think it should work as it is Mad

I hate these soldiers coded as vehicles! Mad

I want to play the GC as singleplayer both as German and Allies and i want the XXX corps to be an aggresive force trying to reach Arnhem Razz

7A_Woulf · Rep: **22.1** votes: 2

"Hear, hear"

Battle for Berlin is also a kick to play as the German (with Salhexe vetmod of course!)

Another tips; -When the AI is attacking, accept truce every time they beg for it. It's nor fair to sit and have a total duck-shoot! Wink

squadleader_id · Rep: **53.2** votes: 7

Sapa · Rep: **76.3** votes: 8

Made another test (what has the developers done???)

Changed values in Data/Base/Battlegroups for all BG:s belonging to XXX Corps

Aggression +5
Caution -5
Charisma +5
Tactics +5
This is the result after 5 minutes in singleplayer battle (will test in GC) at least som units has crossed the first bridge! Dont know what happens if they get fired on (yet)...

squadleader_id · Rep: **53.2** votes: 7

Sapa · Rep: **76.3** votes: 8

He he

No way! now i will look in the team files and try to figure out the units used for XXX Corps...(it would have been nice to use QClone and BGedit now)

Sapa · Rep: **76.3** votes: 8

New German Grand Campaign, Line, Timer 15 minutes. Settings: all German units placed in Walkensward except 1 FJ unit in the lumbermill in the middle off the map

Changes made: Schrecken helped me change Victory Locations on Walkesward map.Removed the 4 Victory Locations (Bridge, Bridge, Crossroads and Lumbermill) Changed Walkensward village VL to 200 p.Changed in Data/Base/Battlegroup for all BG:s belonging to XXX Corps Aggression +5. Caution -5, Charisma +5, Tactics +5

Timer 1140 first Sherman at river, knocked out my single StuG

Timer 1000, Brittish Infantry attacking my unit in the lumbermill, fought them off

Timer 0811 Brittish Infantry attacking village Walkensward, the attack was repulsed

No more action during this first battle.Real big changes from before but it is not perfect..

What can i know..im just an aluminium hot roller Wink

Mafi · Rep: **2.7** votes: 17

schrecken · Rep: **195** votes: 15

Interesting that no BG's are on full aggression in stock Data.

We had to crank the Germans up to 5 in WaR to get them to move.

Sapa · Rep: **76.3** votes: 8

I agree, i has some effect....

must play the GC more and see what happens to the XXX Corps Wink

Thanks for your help! Very Happy

Sapa · Rep: **76.3** votes: 8

Changed Battlegroup speed for all BG:s belonging to XXX Corps from 2 and 3 to 4 (Very fast)

Therion · Rep: **27.4** votes: 4

Return it and buy Firefight instead. It doesn't have such complex representation of weapons as CC but at least, the AI attacks every time you have to defend an objective.


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