Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:45 am Post subject: Iraq
Meanwhile during last 2 weeks the goverment forces lost 4 divisions (with many Abrams's, M113 and other humm-vees) disbanded and most of the territory north of Bagdad to ISIS (Islamic state of Iraq and Sham - ultra-radical sunis that fight with goverment forces in both Syria (part of FSA supprted by the US and EU) and Iraq). Now ISIS forces are moving toward Bagdad. Iran is considering sending troops to help Iraqi goverment stopping them.
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: Iraq
It's crazy:
2nd Infantry Division was destroyed.
3rd Federal police motorized division was destroyed.
4th Infantry Division was destroyed.
12th Infantry Division surrendered to Kurds.
5th Mechanized Division is under heavy pressure and most likely will follow the rest....
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Iraq
$15 Billion in weapons/support and now much of it is captured or destroyed? If Saddam stayed in power, things would have been much more stable.
Yes the media has been keeping this quiet, with very little coverage. The media keeps trying to indoctrinate us and dumb-down the news with misinformation. Which side are the "terrorists"? Damn good thing stupid McCain didn't get his way because those gangster ISIS forces would have captured proposed U.S.-supplied weapons in Syria. Then use those in Iraq.
There is only one solution. Stop being slaves to oil and transition to alternative fuel sources...then the Mid-East will go bankrupt. And stop meddling in Mid-East governments...we fuked up in Iran and now Iraq. Weird...now we're on the side of Iran - I thought they are the terrorists?? What a cluster fuk. Once Maliki cut-out the Sunni's from power it was over. America tried to broker fair representation but we were delusional to think that would last. Our government never understands we can not force our way upon other cultures that don't even want freedom or democracy.
How ironic that probably our "allies" in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are financing ISIS or even being recruited to fight on their ranks.
Iraqi government now shutting down access to social media sites presumably in an attempt to stop the dissemination of the photos of the mass execution, and past/future acts. This is probably the only time I somewhat agree with censorship, it will help stop the spread of panic.
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: Iraq
I bet most of those ISIS gangsters are foreign nationals. So much for Geneva convention rules for POW's. Unbelievable - what a bunch of mother f'rs to do that.
What a wonderful society living under an Islamic State the people of Syria and Iraq have to look forward to. Islam is a religion of peace...when they do this to their own people?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: Iraq
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I bet most of those ISIS gangsters are foreign nationals. So much for Geneva convention rules for POW's. Unbelievable - what a bunch of mother f'rs to do that.
in Iraq alot of ex-Saddam-army officers (that were bribed in 2003 to stop fighting) are a part of ISIS now and that's why they act so professional against the current Iraqi army...
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:38 am Post subject: Re: Iraq
I cant watch the video. But I did read the article.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/10166822/US-sending-275-soldiers-to-besieged-Iraq
looks like there will be boots on the ground + Special forces.
Cant really blame him considering what's at stake. If the rebels took over Iraq it would further worsen the perception of the war being a massive failure. And a waste of money and life.
Is it any wonder that their countries have not prospered... even with their oil fields
Why donkeys & Camels are still used.... Their country dry & arid decimated by overgrazing & firewood collection..]
That's very interesting. First off, a lot of there country's have NOT been officially one country, for much longer than the last century. Unlike a lot of middle eastern places. Some parts are doing better than others.. In Iraq's case. Formed early last century. (I think?) Its obvious.
I have always theorized that the world was a more fertile place in northern Africa and middle east.
In the past. But not any more.
But I cant quote the science. Hence they were the cradles of human civilisation.
I know for a fact that the deserts of china were once greener. And even Caucasians from the west migrated into Xinjiang.
Liberated in 2 world wars with the blood of allied soldiers....]
I must say my friend. In my view. If you look at the history, its very arguable to suggest that they were at all liberated during the second world war. There was a war between Iraq and the UK. In fact I think it was a surprise attack..
There will always be a pro British part off me. Despite all of the good things I can say about great Briton. Its not going to far to say that Briton has been the most harmful and damaging force in the human races history. My bro said the maker of the fantastic children's magazine "Horrible history's" says this.. " But I haven't researched him to verify that.
It aint gonna change unless they are all dead.....
Well, with all the oil there, shits really going to hit the fan in 50-500 years.
Who knows, with all there Camels and donkeys they might be better off
Iraqis cut my hair. And work at the dairy I go to. Despite the fact one of them drives a car with a loud exhaust. And the other 2 listen to hip hop like its okay, I find them to be lovely people
*Edit: This video is being banned on Youtube faster than I can link to it. First Jihad Today was banned, then the same video (from another poster) was banned because of violence.
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I don´t know what are Dima´s intentions for this thread?
Seems like he is malicious..
That makes me sad. Hopefully this thread have nothing to do with the Ukraine stuff.
Peace out bros
How do you mean? I noticed sarcasm by Dima directed towards Obama or US. If Dima's point is that America does not have a leg to stand on to tell Russia not to invade Ukraine, because America invaded Iraq...that may be true. However unlike Russia, America already withdrew forces from Iraq and we only have a small defensive force left guarding the Embassy. What good news for Obama...that must be the malicious slant.
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:07 am Post subject: Re: Iraq
NO WAIT
Gosh Dima, did YOU even listen to the video. He said they wanted to use the Russian bombers on Jerusalem, NOT ISIS. He also said it would take a long time to make the aircraft operational.
And who needs bombs you drop from aircraft anyway.
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Iraq
Only because nobody else wants those jets Dima and since the likelihood of base getting overran or switching sides is so high...rather have those gangsters steal Rus planes than ours.
Only because nobody else wants those jets Dima and since the likelihood of base getting overran or switching sides is so high...rather have those gangsters steal Rus planes than ours.
or maybe because first 2 F16IQ are schedule for September and they need jets here and now.
Iraqis have bought these used Su-25 (from active service in the RF and RB) for USD 100mlns each .
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