Dima
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:56 pm Post subject: German soldiers @ Stalingrad |
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Hi all,
below is a photo of the German stosstrupp in Stalingrad.
This photo is often attributed as assault troop of 389.ID with support of StuGs during the fighting in Stalingrad in October 1942.
I think this photo is really good to get a vision of how the German soldiers were normally armed during city fights - mainly K98k (even NCO is carrying Kar instead of SMG) with M24 grenades and some MG.34 and MPs. Interesting to see a soldier armed with G.41(w) on a foreground, actually that was always making me think those were the soldiers from 24.Pz as usually G.41 was a weapon of 2 i/c in PzGrenadiere trupp.
Of course, it could be a staged photo and that's why no captured weapon is visible although I doubt it. |
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Dima
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: German soldiers @ Stalingrad |
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Once again NCO with Kar in Stalingrad
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mooxe
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: German soldiers @ Stalingrad |
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Interesting photo.... The buildings from then look the same as they do now, and with the colour it seems as if this photo is not 71 years old.
Looks like they are waiting for something. |
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Dima
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: German soldiers @ Stalingrad |
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mooxe wrote (View Post):
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Looks like they are waiting for something.
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Yes, they probably are gathering for an attack. |
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sample
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: German soldiers @ Stalingrad |
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i think the photos are taken by the same photographer, "embedded" in the same unit as in the color picture
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Dima
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: German soldiers @ Stalingrad |
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Thank you for the photos.
Yes, although I've never seen a first photo, the second one is attributed with same unit of 389.ID.
Looks like that's a same StuG IIIF8 as on my first photo . |
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Manoi
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:38 am Post subject: Re: German soldiers @ Stalingrad |
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for the first Dima's picture : it is the 305 inf div (9/ inf rgt 578) in the tractor factory 15 october), the other ones are taken in the barrikady gun factory (16 october) and the units are inf. rgt 577 and stug. abt 245. (source : angriff from jason D Mark). |
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Dima
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:02 am Post subject: Re: German soldiers @ Stalingrad |
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Manoi wrote (View Post):
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for the first Dima's picture : it is the 305 inf div (9/ inf rgt 578) in the tractor factory 15 october), the other ones are taken in the barrikady gun factory (16 october) and the units are inf. rgt 577 and stug. abt 245. (source : angriff from jason D Mark).
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thanks!
guess it's time to get a new book |
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mooxe
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: German soldiers @ Stalingrad |
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Dima wrote (View Post):
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Once again NCO with Kar in Stalingrad
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Amazing. This guys then and now photos are great... I'll post a link later. |
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tripwire
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Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: German soldiers @ Stalingrad |
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Incredible photos, Dima. Thanks! |
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Gun_Pierson
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Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: German soldiers @ Stalingrad |
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That colour picture can also be found in the e-book 'Stalingrad pocket'. The picture comes out the US national archives apparently. It's just an awesome capture of a moment in time and in colour. In the book it says it's near the tractor factory compound and that not 1, but 2 Stugs are involved on the road. |
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Dima
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Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: German soldiers @ Stalingrad |
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Gun_Pierson wrote (View Post):
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That colour picture can also be found in the e-book 'Stalingrad pocket'. The picture comes out the US national archives apparently. It's just an awesome capture of a moment in time and in colour. In the book it says it's near the tractor factory compound and that not 1, but 2 Stugs are involved on the road.
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you can see the second StuG behind first - on same photo in b&w it is clearly seen. |
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